Comments for Adrian Sakashita's Music http://www.fastonkeys.com The musical stylings of Adrian B. Sakashita Wed, 06 Mar 2013 15:41:01 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 Comment on Documenting your Studio by Adrian http://www.fastonkeys.com/studio/documenting-your-studio/comment-page-1/#comment-1397 Adrian Wed, 06 Mar 2013 15:41:01 +0000 http://www.fastonkeys.com/?p=437#comment-1397 Hello - I did this a while ago using Microsoft Visio. Now, however, I use a Mac and if I had to do it over, I would use OmniGraffle Professional. Hope this helps, and feel free to email me direct to discuss further if you like... Adrian Hello -

I did this a while ago using Microsoft Visio. Now, however, I use a Mac and if I had to do it over, I would use OmniGraffle Professional.

Hope this helps, and feel free to email me direct to discuss further if you like…
Adrian

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Comment on Documenting your Studio by Paco http://www.fastonkeys.com/studio/documenting-your-studio/comment-page-1/#comment-1396 Paco Wed, 06 Mar 2013 12:42:56 +0000 http://www.fastonkeys.com/?p=437#comment-1396 Hi, Great work! Which tool do you use to create this documentation? Thanks Paco Hi,
Great work! Which tool do you use to create this documentation?
Thanks
Paco

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Comment on New Yamaha CP1 – Could this be the one? by Kristian http://www.fastonkeys.com/studio/new-yamaha-cp1/comment-page-3/#comment-1371 Kristian Mon, 08 Oct 2012 06:29:04 +0000 http://www.fastonkeys.com/?p=663#comment-1371 Bought a CP1 half a year ago. Sold it last week. I was amazed how dynamic this instrument is, and I was (and still is) kicked off how nice the rhodes sound is. (wurly-sound go home, CP80 good, DX7 good). The piano sounds are quite good, but the touch is too light for me. I couldn't PLAY this instrument, I had to remember what I had under my fingers all the time instead of just playing. Though I might say: the feeling of the key surface is REALY nice. Does not feel like cheep plastic, and the wood on the sides is just a nice finish too. But the touch is too light! I used to have a RD700GXF and I loved the 'escapement' mechanism, but the so-called ivory key tops annoyed me. Actually I liked the sound of the roland, woody and dusty, all that a characterfull piano should have, but I've found out that an digital piano is not like the real thing, and a digital piano has to sound all-round, character-less and mainstream good, therefor I bought the yamaha. Now I've sold it again, and got back to my old yamaha GT2....usually not what you would use as a stage piano, but I used the money on rebuilding it to a movable thing. And I must say, the only touch in the digiworld thats a pianist worthy is that of the GT2. (you could probably also go for the new avant grands, but I happened to have the grand touch, and though it is less dynamic, I actually like the sound better). Last comment on the CP1: Best wannabe rhodes I've ever played! Bought a CP1 half a year ago. Sold it last week.
I was amazed how dynamic this instrument is, and I was (and still is) kicked off how nice the rhodes sound is. (wurly-sound go home, CP80 good, DX7 good). The piano sounds are quite good, but the touch is too light for me. I couldn’t PLAY this instrument, I had to remember what I had under my fingers all the time instead of just playing. Though I might say: the feeling of the key surface is REALY nice. Does not feel like cheep plastic, and the wood on the sides is just a nice finish too. But the touch is too light! I used to have a RD700GXF and I loved the ‘escapement’ mechanism, but the so-called ivory key tops annoyed me. Actually I liked the sound of the roland, woody and dusty, all that a characterfull piano should have, but I’ve found out that an digital piano is not like the real thing, and a digital piano has to sound all-round, character-less and mainstream good, therefor I bought the yamaha. Now I’ve sold it again, and got back to my old yamaha GT2….usually not what you would use as a stage piano, but I used the money on rebuilding it to a movable thing. And I must say, the only touch in the digiworld thats a pianist worthy is that of the GT2. (you could probably also go for the new avant grands, but I happened to have the grand touch, and though it is less dynamic, I actually like the sound better).
Last comment on the CP1: Best wannabe rhodes I’ve ever played!

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Comment on First impressions of the KRK Ergo by Daniel facundo http://www.fastonkeys.com/studio/krk-ergo-review/comment-page-1/#comment-1358 Daniel facundo Sat, 14 Jul 2012 20:46:35 +0000 http://www.fastonkeys.com/?p=426#comment-1358 i have a room that is half treated with foam no bass traps and my moniters (krk 8's gen 2,m audio bx5's) are positioning in the corners and wondering how much the ergo would help in just balancing out my room. i have a room that is half treated with foam no bass traps and my moniters (krk 8’s gen 2,m audio bx5’s) are positioning in the corners and wondering how much the ergo would help in just balancing out my room.

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Comment on New Toy – Roland RD700GX Stage Piano by Danny http://www.fastonkeys.com/studio/new-roland-rd700gx/comment-page-3/#comment-1033 Danny Fri, 14 Oct 2011 01:11:25 +0000 http://www.fastonkeys.com/?p=39#comment-1033 Hi Adrian, Hope all is good & well Brother. I have some bad news.. I am going to be selling my Roland RD700GX!! After the longggg journey to finally get this? It will now be SOLD. I guess it hasnt really lived up to what I thought it would be... In my honest opinion?? This piano is not the 'BEST' sounding, and at times?? Can sound really flat, dull, dark & un-inspiring. I have the ''supernatural'' upgrade, this doesnt really sound that amazing anymore.. and I also have Ultimate Keys srx07.. Same with this.. It sounds like a regular home keyboard!! I am quite dissapointed as I was so hyped about this!! Looks like I will be going back to my beloveded and trusted Yamaha!! You just CANT beat their piano sound!! The S6 piano is 1 of the best i've ever heard!! I will most certaintly be getting an XF8 or if I can still get hold of 1? An XS8, Or I just may try the CP50/CP5/CP1... Hmmm... It's back to ivory 2.0!! I should NEVER have left this & the mac book pro!!! ;-) I hope you dont mind me putting up a mini advert on here?? Roland RD700GX FOR SALE In BRAND NEW CONDITION!!!!! ABSOLUTELY SPOTLESS!! SuperNatural Piano Upgrade Ultimate Keys srx07 DP8 Sustain Pedal Original Manual, CDs, Audio Key Power Supply Contact me for more details/pictures/information Some one might like it! Thanks Adrian!! Danny :-/ Hi Adrian,

Hope all is good & well Brother.

I have some bad news.. I am going to be selling my Roland RD700GX!!

After the longggg journey to finally get this? It will now be SOLD.

I guess it hasnt really lived up to what I thought it would be…

In my honest opinion?? This piano is not the ‘BEST’ sounding, and at times?? Can sound really flat, dull, dark & un-inspiring.

I have the ‘’supernatural” upgrade, this doesnt really sound that amazing anymore.. and I also have Ultimate Keys srx07.. Same with this.. It sounds like a regular home keyboard!!

I am quite dissapointed as I was so hyped about this!!

Looks like I will be going back to my beloveded and trusted Yamaha!!

You just CANT beat their piano sound!! The S6 piano is 1 of the best i’ve ever heard!!

I will most certaintly be getting an XF8 or if I can still get hold of 1? An XS8, Or I just may try the CP50/CP5/CP1… Hmmm…

It’s back to ivory 2.0!! I should NEVER have left this & the mac book pro!!! ;-)

I hope you dont mind me putting up a mini advert on here??

Roland RD700GX FOR SALE
In BRAND NEW CONDITION!!!!! ABSOLUTELY SPOTLESS!!
SuperNatural Piano Upgrade
Ultimate Keys srx07
DP8 Sustain Pedal
Original Manual, CDs, Audio Key
Power Supply

Contact me for more details/pictures/information

Some one might like it!

Thanks Adrian!!

Danny :-/

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Comment on New Toy – Roland RD700GX Stage Piano by brian http://www.fastonkeys.com/studio/new-roland-rd700gx/comment-page-3/#comment-1019 brian Mon, 10 Oct 2011 06:47:29 +0000 http://www.fastonkeys.com/?p=39#comment-1019 Hi Adrian, Great to be able to read all these comments about keyboards in general and Rolands in particular. I have come across your blog in the process of trying to find a replacement for my long suffering and now obsolete RD500 which is no longer supported by Roland Australia. It has been good overall but I'm hoping that the three main problems of constant mechanical breakages, rattly keys and overall weight will be solved. I have tried a few demo models recently and the RD700NX was nicest to play but it is still heavy and expensive plus I so far haven't found anything to indicate the mechanical design of the action is different from the RD500. The RD300NX was good too but the concern I always struggle with is that of being able to switch from the digital to an accoustic piano but I suspect its all in the mind. I have come to the conclusion that I will choose a stage piano which weighs about 18kgs (40lbs) and feels good to play into the headphones and adapt to whatever feel comes with it. The Nord Piano88 seems to get good reviews .. any comments? Brian Hi Adrian,

Great to be able to read all these comments about keyboards in general and Rolands in particular. I have come across your blog in the process of trying to find a replacement for my long suffering and now obsolete RD500 which is no longer supported by Roland Australia. It has been good overall but I’m hoping that the three main problems of constant mechanical breakages, rattly keys and overall weight will be solved. I have tried a few demo models recently and the RD700NX was nicest to play but it is still heavy and expensive plus I so far haven’t found anything to indicate the mechanical design of the action is different from the RD500. The RD300NX was good too but the concern I always struggle with is that of being able to switch from the digital to an accoustic piano but I suspect its all in the mind. I have come to the conclusion that I will choose a stage piano which weighs about 18kgs (40lbs) and feels good to play into the headphones and adapt to whatever feel comes with it. The Nord Piano88 seems to get good reviews .. any comments?

Brian

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Comment on New Toy – Roland RD700GX Stage Piano by Adrian http://www.fastonkeys.com/studio/new-roland-rd700gx/comment-page-3/#comment-971 Adrian Tue, 20 Sep 2011 18:15:25 +0000 http://www.fastonkeys.com/?p=39#comment-971 Hiya Danny! Glad to hear you're the enthusiasm accompanying your purchase! Sounds like you made a great deal, and with no surprise, the GX will be a great instrument for years to come. I actually wasn't aware of the NX having no expansion slots.... thanks for sharing that herein! All the best, Adrian Hiya Danny!

Glad to hear you’re the enthusiasm accompanying your purchase! Sounds like you made a great deal, and with no surprise, the GX will be a great instrument for years to come. I actually wasn’t aware of the NX having no expansion slots…. thanks for sharing that herein!

All the best,
Adrian

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Comment on New Toy – Roland RD700GX Stage Piano by Dan http://www.fastonkeys.com/studio/new-roland-rd700gx/comment-page-3/#comment-953 Dan Thu, 15 Sep 2011 23:51:01 +0000 http://www.fastonkeys.com/?p=39#comment-953 Adrian!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Thanks so much for your reply!! I DID IT!!!!!!!! I BROUGHT THE RD700GX TODAY!!!!!!! It took me a total of 10 hours driving, man I am so tired right now, I've literally just got back home!! It was a longggggggggggg way from me, I left at 6 am this morning, 400 miles from me, and 400 miles back to my house, 5 hours each way, even whilst driving at a not very recommended speed limit!!! :-p BUT IT WAS SO WORTH IT!!!!!!!! I have the super natural srx card installed, and the gentleman who I brought it from was ever so kind he also installed the ultimate piano keys & sold me the roland srx symphonic strings for £50 which is so CHEAP!!! The UK retail price is £255 (The strings sound so AMAZINNNNNNG by the way!!!! WOW!!! It sounds even better than philharmonic which I've been using) I am so glad I decided to buy this and here's for why: 1. I will be gigging very very soon with a band and as I am practicing away 8 hours a day on my other digital piano? I will not be pounding away the GX keys, but with that being said? I do honestly believe the GX ivory keys are able to take a good pounding every day & night & still not break or have much wear & tear, I mean after all? That’s what the keys are made for right?!! Practicing & Playing!! 2. I have the super natural piano as you have mentioned brings the GX in line the NX. And will all the customizable options? It can get really crazy if you want it to. 3. The NX has no expansion slots.. This is fine.. But man after playing around with ultimate keys, the strings & the super natural cards? It's quite clear the GX is A LOT more expandable than its new big brother!! I think Roland have got it wrong with the NX, & I do expect they will bring out probably something to make it expandable or like you said, a newer model which will hurt the NX owners!! 4. This is my 1st Roland & I have to say it won’t be my last.. The ivory key bed is beautiful, it has the perfect touch. I remember playing on a Roland HPi7 I thought this was good, but this GX is just PERFECT!! And now I have also found my 2nd perfect controller for logic to go along with my studio logic vmk 188 plus (check this out if you haven’t already Adrian) I wouldn’t be surprised if fatar didn’t make this key bed for Roland as they make them for all the other companies?? 5. I can now finally rest & stop the frantic searching!! 6. Adrian is the best!!!!!! ;-) I would like to send you some pictures of this; I know you have 1 LOL but I am so excitedddddd it's just so amazing as you already know!! I wanted to ask you, what can I use to clean these ivory keys?? And also could you recommend me a good stand for this? As the 1 I got with it is a bit flimsy and not really secure. Something by Quik Lok perhaps? Adrian thanks again so much for your brother!! I really appreciate it. I am off to sleep now, so I can be awake at 6 am to start putting this GX through its paces!! Bring on the chord progressions!!!!!!! Thanks A, Danny :-) Adrian!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Thanks so much for your reply!!

I DID IT!!!!!!!! I BROUGHT THE RD700GX TODAY!!!!!!! It took me a total of 10 hours driving, man I am so tired right now, I’ve literally just got back home!!

It was a longggggggggggg way from me, I left at 6 am this morning, 400 miles from me, and 400 miles back to my house, 5 hours each way, even whilst driving at a not very recommended speed limit!!! :-p

BUT IT WAS SO WORTH IT!!!!!!!!

I have the super natural srx card installed, and the gentleman who I brought it from was ever so kind he also installed the ultimate piano keys & sold me the roland srx symphonic strings for £50 which is so CHEAP!!! The UK retail price is £255 (The strings sound so AMAZINNNNNNG by the way!!!! WOW!!! It sounds even better than philharmonic which I’ve been using)

I am so glad I decided to buy this and here’s for why:

1. I will be gigging very very soon with a band and as I am practicing away 8 hours a day on my other digital piano? I will not be pounding away the GX keys, but with that being said? I do honestly believe the GX ivory keys are able to take a good pounding every day & night & still not break or have much wear & tear, I mean after all? That’s what the keys are made for right?!! Practicing & Playing!!

2. I have the super natural piano as you have mentioned brings the GX in line the NX. And will all the customizable options? It can get really crazy if you want it to.

3. The NX has no expansion slots.. This is fine.. But man after playing around with ultimate keys, the strings & the super natural cards? It’s quite clear the GX is A LOT more expandable than its new big brother!! I think Roland have got it wrong with the NX, & I do expect they will bring out probably something to make it expandable or like you said, a newer model which will hurt the NX owners!!

4. This is my 1st Roland & I have to say it won’t be my last.. The ivory key bed is beautiful, it has the perfect touch. I remember playing on a Roland HPi7 I thought this was good, but this GX is just PERFECT!! And now I have also found my 2nd perfect controller for logic to go along with my studio logic vmk 188 plus (check this out if you haven’t already Adrian) I wouldn’t be surprised if fatar didn’t make this key bed for Roland as they make them for all the other companies??

5. I can now finally rest & stop the frantic searching!!

6. Adrian is the best!!!!!! ;-)

I would like to send you some pictures of this; I know you have 1 LOL but I am so excitedddddd it’s just so amazing as you already know!!

I wanted to ask you, what can I use to clean these ivory keys?? And also could you recommend me a good stand for this? As the 1 I got with it is a bit flimsy and not really secure. Something by Quik Lok perhaps?

Adrian thanks again so much for your brother!! I really appreciate it.

I am off to sleep now, so I can be awake at 6 am to start putting this GX through its paces!! Bring on the chord progressions!!!!!!!

Thanks A,

Danny :-)

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Comment on New Toy – Roland RD700GX Stage Piano by Adrian http://www.fastonkeys.com/studio/new-roland-rd700gx/comment-page-3/#comment-948 Adrian Wed, 14 Sep 2011 22:51:08 +0000 http://www.fastonkeys.com/?p=39#comment-948 Many thanks Danny for your kind comments! Regarding the GX vs NX topic... all things being equal, I'd have to say the NX is a GREAT update on the RD700GX - but is it good enough to justify the price difference you're contemplating? In my opinion, no. For one, the upgraded supernatural card brings the piano samples pretty much into parity, so the main difference (at least to me) is the action. The Alpha 3 action is indeed an improvement but in my case, I've opted to stick it out with my GX because it wasn't so much an improvement to justify swapping out... Don't get me wrong - I'm uber impressed with the NX but I figure waiting thru an additional revision may serve me well... AND, I don't believe Roland has 100% addressed the key wear issue - so my theory is wait out the NX generation and contemplate what comes next - presumably to be introduced at Winter NAMM? I do have keywear on my GX but I must admit it's not as pronounced as I sense being experienced by others. For one, I'm not pounding away at it every day of the week, and when I do, it's not for prolonged periods... I can live it - given all the other advantages. I also upgraded mine with the supernatural srx card too so I guess it's safe to say I'm content (actually very content) with the GX. Here's another way to look at it... if Roland hasn't 100% fixed the keywear issue, you're making a wiser investment in the GX by definition. I believe this will be addressed although from everything I've read, not 100% so in the NX. Does anyone have differing experiences on the NX? Many thanks Danny for your kind comments! Regarding the GX vs NX topic… all things being equal, I’d have to say the NX is a GREAT update on the RD700GX – but is it good enough to justify the price difference you’re contemplating? In my opinion, no. For one, the upgraded supernatural card brings the piano samples pretty much into parity, so the main difference (at least to me) is the action. The Alpha 3 action is indeed an improvement but in my case, I’ve opted to stick it out with my GX because it wasn’t so much an improvement to justify swapping out… Don’t get me wrong – I’m uber impressed with the NX but I figure waiting thru an additional revision may serve me well… AND, I don’t believe Roland has 100% addressed the key wear issue – so my theory is wait out the NX generation and contemplate what comes next – presumably to be introduced at Winter NAMM?

I do have keywear on my GX but I must admit it’s not as pronounced as I sense being experienced by others. For one, I’m not pounding away at it every day of the week, and when I do, it’s not for prolonged periods… I can live it – given all the other advantages. I also upgraded mine with the supernatural srx card too so I guess it’s safe to say I’m content (actually very content) with the GX.

Here’s another way to look at it… if Roland hasn’t 100% fixed the keywear issue, you’re making a wiser investment in the GX by definition. I believe this will be addressed although from everything I’ve read, not 100% so in the NX. Does anyone have differing experiences on the NX?

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Comment on New Toy – Roland RD700GX Stage Piano by Dan http://www.fastonkeys.com/studio/new-roland-rd700gx/comment-page-3/#comment-947 Dan Wed, 14 Sep 2011 22:25:03 +0000 http://www.fastonkeys.com/?p=39#comment-947 Hi Adrian. Thanks for such a GREAT SITE!!!!!! It is appreciated!! I wanted to ask you a quick question.... Should I get the roland RD-700GX?? or the RD-700NX?? Which will be better & the best for gigging & studio recording?? I can get hold of a rd700gx in BRAND NEW CONDITION with the supernatural upgrade srx card & also the ultimate keys card for around £1100 UK POUNDS!! (THIS IS A STEAL!!!!!! As the 700nx retails for £2085 alone!!) Now here's my dileamma... Has the 700nx got a better touch than the 700gx?? I mean the 700nx is basically a 700gx but with the new alpha 3 keybed and no exspansion slots right?? Would I be 'missing out' if I went for the gx over the nx?? And how much of a real difference is it?? Also do you have any keywear of the ivory on your gx?? Which would you advise me to go for?? Please reply when you can! Thanks A!! Danny :-) P.S. I LOVE YOUR MUSIC COMPOSITIONS!!!!!!! KEEP UP THE GREAT WORK BROTHER!!!! Hi Adrian.

Thanks for such a GREAT SITE!!!!!! It is appreciated!!

I wanted to ask you a quick question….

Should I get the roland RD-700GX?? or the RD-700NX??

Which will be better & the best for gigging & studio recording??

I can get hold of a rd700gx in BRAND NEW CONDITION with the supernatural upgrade srx card & also the ultimate keys card for around £1100 UK POUNDS!! (THIS IS A STEAL!!!!!! As the 700nx retails for £2085 alone!!)

Now here’s my dileamma… Has the 700nx got a better touch than the 700gx?? I mean the 700nx is basically a 700gx but with the new alpha 3 keybed and no exspansion slots right??

Would I be ‘missing out’ if I went for the gx over the nx?? And how much of a real difference is it??

Also do you have any keywear of the ivory on your gx??

Which would you advise me to go for??

Please reply when you can!

Thanks A!!

Danny :-)

P.S. I LOVE YOUR MUSIC COMPOSITIONS!!!!!!! KEEP UP THE GREAT WORK BROTHER!!!!

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Comment on New Toy – Roland RD700GX Stage Piano by Learn how to play a guitar today. Lots of video tutorials and guides http://www.fastonkeys.com/studio/new-roland-rd700gx/comment-page-3/#comment-821 Learn how to play a guitar today. Lots of video tutorials and guides Mon, 08 Aug 2011 08:36:37 +0000 http://www.fastonkeys.com/?p=39#comment-821 <strong>Learn how to play a guitar today. Lots of video tutorials and guides...</strong> Roland RD700GX vs. Kawai MP8 | Adrian Sakashita's Music... Learn how to play a guitar today. Lots of video tutorials and guides…

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Comment on Less is more inside the studio by Gerard Manley http://www.fastonkeys.com/studio/less-is-more-inside-the-studio/comment-page-1/#comment-727 Gerard Manley Sun, 17 Jul 2011 04:53:37 +0000 http://www.fastonkeys.com/?p=368#comment-727 Hear Hear!! Apart from anything else this philosophy reduces waste and is kinder to the environment. I do of course accept that manufacturers need to maintain sales to exist and DEVELOP new technology, but there needs to be balance. I live in Christchurch New Zealand. We recently had very destructive earthquakes and to my surprise, three studios who lost their purpose built premises have continued from bedrooms!!! Food for thought - the engineer not the engine. Hear Hear!! Apart from anything else this philosophy reduces waste and is kinder to the environment.

I do of course accept that manufacturers need to maintain sales to exist and DEVELOP new technology, but there needs to be balance.

I live in Christchurch New Zealand. We recently had very destructive earthquakes and to my surprise, three studios who lost their purpose built premises have continued from bedrooms!!! Food for thought – the engineer not the engine.

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Comment on First impressions of the KRK Ergo by Gerard Manley http://www.fastonkeys.com/studio/krk-ergo-review/comment-page-1/#comment-726 Gerard Manley Sun, 17 Jul 2011 04:40:00 +0000 http://www.fastonkeys.com/?p=426#comment-726 Thanks for your great assessment. The sound you produce certainly gives weight to your opinion. I am a rank amateur with no real likelihood of getting a purpose built studio, but I do field recordings of acoustic musicians/singers and I wonder if you think this unit would be valuable for that kind of use? I hope it wouldn't be an insult to say that your recordings sound like the "perfect" tracks used to showcase the features of keyboards - clear, crisp and ACCESSIBLE! Cheers Gerard Thanks for your great assessment. The sound you produce certainly gives weight to your opinion. I am a rank amateur with no real likelihood of getting a purpose built studio, but I do field recordings of acoustic musicians/singers and I wonder if you think this unit would be valuable for that kind of use?

I hope it wouldn’t be an insult to say that your recordings sound like the “perfect” tracks used to showcase the features of keyboards – clear, crisp and ACCESSIBLE!

Cheers
Gerard

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Comment on SoundCloud.com makes reviewing easy by SoundPromo http://www.fastonkeys.com/studio/track-sharing-with-soundcloud/comment-page-1/#comment-725 SoundPromo Sat, 16 Jul 2011 21:51:58 +0000 http://www.fastonkeys.com/?p=45#comment-725 Total sound-porn. I love the vividness of the melody...gonna be grooving to this all night! Cheers Total sound-porn. I love the vividness of the melody…gonna be grooving to this all night! Cheers

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Comment on A bit about software samplers by VST http://www.fastonkeys.com/studio/software-sampler-primer/comment-page-1/#comment-722 VST Mon, 04 Jul 2011 17:57:45 +0000 http://www.fastonkeys.com/?p=42#comment-722 Great!! Best regards, Age. Great!! Best regards, Age.

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Comment on New Yamaha CP1 – Could this be the one? by Ken Totman http://www.fastonkeys.com/studio/new-yamaha-cp1/comment-page-3/#comment-716 Ken Totman Thu, 16 Jun 2011 18:49:36 +0000 http://www.fastonkeys.com/?p=663#comment-716 Along with everything that appears to be developing within this particular area, many of your viewpoints are actually fairly exciting. On the other hand, I appologize, because I can not give credence to your entire plan, all be it stimulating none the less. It seems to us that your commentary are generally not completely justified and in fact you are your self not totally confident of the point. In any event I did take pleasure in reading it. Along with everything that appears to be developing within this particular area, many of your viewpoints are actually fairly exciting. On the other hand, I appologize, because I can not give credence to your entire plan, all be it stimulating none the less. It seems to us that your commentary are generally not completely justified and in fact you are your self not totally confident of the point. In any event I did take pleasure in reading it.

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Comment on Last of my remixes with Mischief by YMCMB http://www.fastonkeys.com/music/last-remix-mischief/comment-page-1/#comment-706 YMCMB Thu, 09 Jun 2011 20:43:46 +0000 http://www.fastonkeys.com/music/last-of-my-remixes-with-mischief/#comment-706 I love listening to this remix. I love listening to this remix.

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Comment on Real Sax & Horns for Worship! by Robert Lotter http://www.fastonkeys.com/music/new-brass-for-worship/comment-page-1/#comment-696 Robert Lotter Tue, 24 May 2011 20:31:06 +0000 http://www.fastonkeys.com/?p=113#comment-696 Nice! It's so onerous to seek good high quality information on the internet right now from knowledgeable sources, it is all wannabe's and reused content material with only some exceptions. I hope you keep up the good work and I most likely be again to learn extra of your posts in the future! Nice! It’s so onerous to seek good high quality information on the internet right now from knowledgeable sources, it is all wannabe’s and reused content material with only some exceptions. I hope you keep up the good work and I most likely be again to learn extra of your posts in the future!

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Comment on New Toy – Roland RD700GX Stage Piano by Kim G http://www.fastonkeys.com/studio/new-roland-rd700gx/comment-page-3/#comment-694 Kim G Tue, 17 May 2011 02:25:06 +0000 http://www.fastonkeys.com/?p=39#comment-694 Hi, just wanted to say that the issue with key wear Roland RD700GX has not been addressed as I have got the New RD700NX for two months to date, and have this problem starting to occur. Started with white spots noticed, now today I can feel roughness under the finger while playing and on inspection can see worn groove areas on a couple of notes in the heavily worked areas. Love the feel of this keyboard and am hoping that it doesnt get any worse. Roland needs to address this. I am a classical playerand bought this for the collection fo pianos on it, so touch is essential and this is quite off putting. thanks Kim Hi, just wanted to say that the issue with key wear Roland RD700GX has not been addressed
as I have got the New RD700NX for two months to date, and have this problem starting to occur. Started with white spots noticed, now today I can feel roughness under the finger while playing and on inspection can see worn groove areas on a couple of notes in the heavily worked areas. Love the feel of this keyboard and am hoping that it doesnt get any worse. Roland needs to address this. I am a classical playerand bought this for the collection fo pianos on it, so touch is essential and this is quite off putting.
thanks Kim

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Comment on New Yamaha CP1 – Could this be the one? by abomic http://www.fastonkeys.com/studio/new-yamaha-cp1/comment-page-3/#comment-691 abomic Sat, 07 May 2011 10:00:51 +0000 http://www.fastonkeys.com/?p=663#comment-691 Hello , about the Stage Piano CP5 CP50 & CP1 in FRENCH data base : videos , PDF , support , links , comments , tests etc.... CP5 Yamaha - Tout savoir - Compil de liens utiles ²²²²²²²²²²²²²²²²²²²²²²²²²²²²²²²²²²²²²²²²²²²²²² http://www.audiokeys.net/forum/showthread.php/23766-CP5-Yamaha-Tout-savoir-Compil-de-liens-utiles NEWS : CP5 Yamaha - CP5 OS Updater V1.20 18 avril 2011 http://www.audiokeys.net/forum/showthread.php/25139-CP5-Yamaha-CP5-OS-Updater-V1.20-18-avril-2011 comments in french Hello ,

about the Stage Piano CP5 CP50 & CP1
in FRENCH

data base : videos , PDF , support , links , comments , tests etc….

CP5 Yamaha – Tout savoir – Compil de liens utiles
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NEWS :
CP5 Yamaha – CP5 OS Updater V1.20 18 avril 2011
http://www.audiokeys.net/forum/showthread.php/25139-CP5-Yamaha-CP5-OS-Updater-V1.20-18-avril-2011
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Comment on First impressions of the KRK Ergo by Joao Caracas http://www.fastonkeys.com/studio/krk-ergo-review/comment-page-1/#comment-690 Joao Caracas Tue, 03 May 2011 18:57:45 +0000 http://www.fastonkeys.com/?p=426#comment-690 Hello Adrian, I`m interested in buying the ERGO, but i dont have an audio interface. Could I use the ERGO as my audio interface? Can i record say a guitar or vocals with a microphone using the ERGO, so i can get low latency, rather than using the built-in audio interface inside my macbook pro? I use ableton live as a DAW. thank you, Joao Hello Adrian,

I`m interested in buying the ERGO, but i dont have an audio interface. Could I use the ERGO as my audio interface? Can i record say a guitar or vocals with a microphone using the ERGO, so i can get low latency, rather than using the built-in audio interface inside my macbook pro? I use ableton live as a DAW.

thank you,

Joao

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Comment on New Yamaha CP1 – Could this be the one? by Michael (Toronto) http://www.fastonkeys.com/studio/new-yamaha-cp1/comment-page-3/#comment-684 Michael (Toronto) Fri, 29 Apr 2011 05:23:31 +0000 http://www.fastonkeys.com/?p=663#comment-684 Hey everybody! I brought home a Roland RD700NX today! I was trying it in the store with my headphones and was quite impressed. I wanted to hear it in my studio and compare it side by side with the CP-1. The result of my early hours of testing was incredibly eye-opening! I did all sorts of auditions testing all the piano sounds and tweaking the velocity touch. AB'ing CP-1 and RD700. I love the string resonance on the roland and the very 'lively', 'stringy', woody tone. There are three main categories of acoustic piano on the Roland: "Concert", "Studio", "Brilliant". Concert is dark, woody and full of character. Studio is softer, smoother, smaller. Brilliant is very transparent yet can morph into an Antique piano or an amazing Bosendorfer clone! I could go on and on about the auditions. The roland electric pianos are good but a far cry from the depth of the CP-1 electric pianos. Both CP-1 and Roland were neck in neck as far as acoustic pianos go. As for the actions.... well the Roland feels much closer to a grand piano action. Yet I love the lighter, responsive action of the CP-1 as well. I'm keeping them both by the looks of things. Each contributes a whole piano world of it's own and the Roland has a lot of other excellent sounds as well. The CP-1 has the best CP-80 piano as well. Having two excellent 88 note weighted keyboards will be great. I can play piano duets with a friend and the pianos can have their own differing and complementing tones. I highly recommend the Roland RD700NX for it's excellent pianos and touch. I also praise the CP-1 for it's excellent pianos and unique feel (and awesome E. pianos). I also ordered the 3-pedal unit for the roland as well. Can't tell you all enough about how heavenly this experience has been. BTW, I played the Ivory samples with both keyboards and the roland touch gives Ivory that real authentic feel for the Steinway and Bosendorfer. I emphasize that you MUST use good quality studio speakers. Now, I must get my hands back on those keyboards! Cheers, Michael Hey everybody!

I brought home a Roland RD700NX today! I was trying it in the store with my headphones and was quite impressed. I wanted to hear it in my studio and compare it side by side with the CP-1. The result of my early hours of testing was incredibly eye-opening! I did all sorts of auditions testing all the piano sounds and tweaking the velocity touch. AB’ing CP-1 and RD700. I love the string resonance on the roland and the very ‘lively’, ’stringy’, woody tone.

There are three main categories of acoustic piano on the Roland: “Concert”, “Studio”, “Brilliant”. Concert is dark, woody and full of character. Studio is softer, smoother, smaller. Brilliant is very transparent yet can morph into an Antique piano or an amazing Bosendorfer clone!

I could go on and on about the auditions. The roland electric pianos are good but a far cry from the depth of the CP-1 electric pianos. Both CP-1 and Roland were neck in neck as far as acoustic pianos go. As for the actions…. well the Roland feels much closer to a grand piano action. Yet I love the lighter, responsive action of the CP-1 as well.

I’m keeping them both by the looks of things. Each contributes a whole piano world of it’s own and the Roland has a lot of other excellent sounds as well. The CP-1 has the best CP-80 piano as well. Having two excellent 88 note weighted keyboards will be great. I can play piano duets with a friend and the pianos can have their own differing and complementing tones.

I highly recommend the Roland RD700NX for it’s excellent pianos and touch. I also praise the CP-1 for it’s excellent pianos and unique feel (and awesome E. pianos). I also ordered the 3-pedal unit for the roland as well.

Can’t tell you all enough about how heavenly this experience has been. BTW, I played the Ivory samples with both keyboards and the roland touch gives Ivory that real authentic feel for the Steinway and Bosendorfer. I emphasize that you MUST use good quality studio speakers.

Now, I must get my hands back on those keyboards!

Cheers,

Michael

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Comment on Last of my remixes with Mischief by Adrian http://www.fastonkeys.com/music/last-remix-mischief/comment-page-1/#comment-683 Adrian Sun, 24 Apr 2011 21:50:41 +0000 http://www.fastonkeys.com/music/last-of-my-remixes-with-mischief/#comment-683 Many thanks! Many thanks!

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Comment on Last of my remixes with Mischief by Johnathan Noah http://www.fastonkeys.com/music/last-remix-mischief/comment-page-1/#comment-682 Johnathan Noah Sun, 24 Apr 2011 16:05:06 +0000 http://www.fastonkeys.com/music/last-of-my-remixes-with-mischief/#comment-682 Nice remix! Nice remix!

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Comment on New Yamaha CP1 – Could this be the one? by Michael (Toronto) http://www.fastonkeys.com/studio/new-yamaha-cp1/comment-page-3/#comment-677 Michael (Toronto) Wed, 23 Mar 2011 03:31:13 +0000 http://www.fastonkeys.com/?p=663#comment-677 Hi again Slipstack, I'm glad to hear you're experiencing an improved sound with the CP-1! Sounds like the Roland studio monitors are sounding great (I'm not familiar with them). My only concern is with their somewhat low power output of 60 Watts. Be careful not to overdrive them, and yes I would definitely recommend adding a subwoofer. With the sub make sure you set the cutoff frequency quite low so as not to muddy up the low mid notes in the overall sound. Keep the subwoofer volume WAY DOWN! It should only be a subtle effect. Experiment until you're happy with the consistency octave to octave. And don't position the speakers too far apart (not much further than the ends of the keyboard) or you'll experience a "hole" in the middle of the listening area. I actually added two smaller ADAM A5 speakers there with volume way down. BTW, if you're budget allows, I would HIGHLY recommend the ADAM A5 as a superior lower budget main studio monitor! Enjoy your 'emancipated' CP-1! Michael Hi again Slipstack, I’m glad to hear you’re experiencing an improved sound with the CP-1!

Sounds like the Roland studio monitors are sounding great (I’m not familiar with them). My only concern is with their somewhat low power output of 60 Watts. Be careful not to overdrive them, and yes I would definitely recommend adding a subwoofer. With the sub make sure you set the cutoff frequency quite low so as not to muddy up the low mid notes in the overall sound. Keep the subwoofer volume WAY DOWN! It should only be a subtle effect. Experiment until you’re happy with the consistency octave to octave. And don’t position the speakers too far apart (not much further than the ends of the keyboard) or you’ll experience a “hole” in the middle of the listening area. I actually added two smaller ADAM A5 speakers there with volume way down. BTW, if you’re budget allows, I would HIGHLY recommend the ADAM A5 as a superior lower budget main studio monitor!

Enjoy your ‘emancipated’ CP-1!

Michael

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Comment on New Yamaha CP1 – Could this be the one? by Slipstack (in Norway) http://www.fastonkeys.com/studio/new-yamaha-cp1/comment-page-3/#comment-676 Slipstack (in Norway) Tue, 22 Mar 2011 19:12:50 +0000 http://www.fastonkeys.com/?p=663#comment-676 Update: • I tried headphones - the sound is even and perfect all over - which tells me the piano is good but my output/speaker system isn't. • I tried cheap studio monitors (Edirol) - fairly good sound (for the price) but nowhere near good enough - lacks punch - and some odd artifacts still. • I tried mid/high range studio monitors (Roland DS-7, 60 watt bi-amp) - balanced cables - and finally every piece fell into place! It's a whole new instrument! Even if it can't match the bass and loudness of the Bose L1, the sound is so much richer at half the cost (of the L1) , that I switched immediately. No more artifacts, no notes screaming or partly muted. And with the right positioning of the speakers, I also get the same panning from left (bass) to right (treble) as I'm used to from an acoustic piano - and on some of the built in tremolo effects. This was completely missing from my mono Bose setup which gave me the sound from one point above my head. I had really underestimated the importance of this for a fully immersive playing experience. In a stage setting, it wouldn't matter, but for home and practice use, it is crucial! So next step is to add a sub-woofer to get those few more dB from the bass octaves, and I'm ready to really start loving this terrific instrument. I can still turn down the treble on my Bose and use the analog output from the piano to play the lowest frequencies, it sounds terrific, but I have a feeling a dedicated sub will be better still. I have no doubt that buying even more expensive and powerful speakers would produce an even richer and "better" sound. Some professional studio musicians I've discussed this with did recommend Genelec speakers for a soft brilliant sound, not breaking my budget, but I will stick to my Rolands. I bet I could go on fine tuning the sounds and testing out different speakers, but for now I'd rather spend my time playing the CP1. Lessons learned: • PA systems belongs on stages, not in home studios. • A piano is a STEREO - not a mono - instrument Thanks for your input Michael, it was really helpful. Update:

• I tried headphones – the sound is even and perfect all over – which tells me the piano is good but my output/speaker system isn’t.

• I tried cheap studio monitors (Edirol) – fairly good sound (for the price) but nowhere near good enough – lacks punch – and some odd artifacts still.

• I tried mid/high range studio monitors (Roland DS-7, 60 watt bi-amp) – balanced cables – and finally every piece fell into place! It’s a whole new instrument!

Even if it can’t match the bass and loudness of the Bose L1, the sound is so much richer at half the cost (of the L1) , that I switched immediately. No more artifacts, no notes screaming or partly muted. And with the right positioning of the speakers, I also get the same panning from left (bass) to right (treble) as I’m used to from an acoustic piano – and on some of the built in tremolo effects. This was completely missing from my mono Bose setup which gave me the sound from one point above my head. I had really underestimated the importance of this for a fully immersive playing experience. In a stage setting, it wouldn’t matter, but for home and practice use, it is crucial!

So next step is to add a sub-woofer to get those few more dB from the bass octaves, and I’m ready to really start loving this terrific instrument. I can still turn down the treble on my Bose and use the analog output from the piano to play the lowest frequencies, it sounds terrific, but I have a feeling a dedicated sub will be better still.

I have no doubt that buying even more expensive and powerful speakers would produce an even richer and “better” sound. Some professional studio musicians I’ve discussed this with did recommend Genelec speakers for a soft brilliant sound, not breaking my budget, but I will stick to my Rolands. I bet I could go on fine tuning the sounds and testing out different speakers, but for now I’d rather spend my time playing the CP1.

Lessons learned:
• PA systems belongs on stages, not in home studios.
• A piano is a STEREO – not a mono – instrument

Thanks for your input Michael, it was really helpful.

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Comment on New Toy – Roland RD700GX Stage Piano by Joe http://www.fastonkeys.com/studio/new-roland-rd700gx/comment-page-3/#comment-671 Joe Sun, 13 Mar 2011 19:43:57 +0000 http://www.fastonkeys.com/?p=39#comment-671 Adrian....I wrote to you a couple of times last year, I did buy the Roland VR-700. All-in-all GREAT organ, but otherwise the unit is so limited. No real editing of sounds, old sound set, so-so-pianos, no expansion capabilities and they have oneinternal EQ for ALL sounds, so you cannot individually EQ patches. But here's the kicker....the pianos produce a very unpleasant delayed undertone when you turn up bass on the amp. I thought it was the amp at first, so I tried a different one, same thing! I have contacted Roland and If you know anything about this, could you please respond to my email? Thanks, Joe Adrian….I wrote to you a couple of times last year, I did buy the Roland VR-700. All-in-all GREAT organ, but otherwise the unit is so limited. No real editing of sounds, old sound set, so-so-pianos, no expansion capabilities and they have oneinternal EQ for ALL sounds, so you cannot individually EQ patches. But here’s the kicker….the pianos produce a very unpleasant delayed undertone when you turn up bass on the amp. I thought it was the amp at first, so I tried a different one, same thing! I have contacted Roland and If you know anything about this, could you please respond to my email? Thanks, Joe

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Comment on New Yamaha CP1 – Could this be the one? by Michael (Toronto) http://www.fastonkeys.com/studio/new-yamaha-cp1/comment-page-3/#comment-670 Michael (Toronto) Fri, 11 Mar 2011 05:12:56 +0000 http://www.fastonkeys.com/?p=663#comment-670 Hi Slipstack, I wish I could sit you down to play my CP-1 with my Adam speaker set up (see above for details). I think you'd be shocked at how perfectly clear and even the frequency response is at all octaves! I'm not deeply familiar with the Bose product you're using but my impression is that the Bose system is designed for "live" use. Most live PA systems have reasonable overall frequency response at the macro level, but I have yet to hear even high end live PA systems that can compete with quality studio monitors such as Adam at a micro level. Live PA speakers tradeoff ultra smooth frequency response in order to gain larger power handling capabilities. I did live sound for a few years and always used a spectrum analyser and 1/3 octave graphic EQ and parametric EQ's to fine tune the myriad discrepancies in PA frequency response (mostly high end JBL systems). Using any type of "tone match controller" (i.e. EQ?) will only add more problems to an already deficient speaker system. You will introduce phase shifting into the signal with EQ as well as more noise in the signal path. My recommendation.... get yourself some good quality studio monitors and use balanced cables to set it all up... after all, you wouldn't put economy tires on a Ferrari would you? Also pay attention to your acoustics as well. Best of luck... the smooth excellent sound is totally in the CP-1 waiting to get out clearly! Michael Hi Slipstack, I wish I could sit you down to play my CP-1 with my Adam speaker set up (see above for details). I think you’d be shocked at how perfectly clear and even the frequency response is at all octaves! I’m not deeply familiar with the Bose product you’re using but my impression is that the Bose system is designed for “live” use. Most live PA systems have reasonable overall frequency response at the macro level, but I have yet to hear even high end live PA systems that can compete with quality studio monitors such as Adam at a micro level. Live PA speakers tradeoff ultra smooth frequency response in order to gain larger power handling capabilities. I did live sound for a few years and always used a spectrum analyser and 1/3 octave graphic EQ and parametric EQ’s to fine tune the myriad discrepancies in PA frequency response (mostly high end JBL systems). Using any type of “tone match controller” (i.e. EQ?) will only add more problems to an already deficient speaker system. You will introduce phase shifting into the signal with EQ as well as more noise in the signal path.

My recommendation…. get yourself some good quality studio monitors and use balanced cables to set it all up… after all, you wouldn’t put economy tires on a Ferrari would you? Also pay attention to your acoustics as well.

Best of luck… the smooth excellent sound is totally in the CP-1 waiting to get out clearly!

Michael

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Comment on New Yamaha CP1 – Could this be the one? by Slipstack (in Norway) http://www.fastonkeys.com/studio/new-yamaha-cp1/comment-page-3/#comment-665 Slipstack (in Norway) Wed, 02 Mar 2011 00:11:16 +0000 http://www.fastonkeys.com/?p=663#comment-665 Thank you for your reply Michael, I do start to believe you might be on the right track about this. I'm running the piano through a Bose L1 compact system ( http://www.bose.com/controller?url=/shop_online/speakers/portable_amplification_systems/l1_compact/index.jsp ), I will try to add a tone match controller to it and hope I can fine adjust the annoying tones only. I'll post the result here (within a week or so). Slipstack Thank you for your reply Michael, I do start to believe you might be on the right track about this. I’m running the piano through a Bose L1 compact system ( http://www.bose.com/controller?url=/shop_online/speakers/portable_amplification_systems/l1_compact/index.jsp ), I will try to add a tone match controller to it and hope I can fine adjust the annoying tones only. I’ll post the result here (within a week or so).

Slipstack

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Comment on New Yamaha CP1 – Could this be the one? by Michael (Toronto) http://www.fastonkeys.com/studio/new-yamaha-cp1/comment-page-3/#comment-663 Michael (Toronto) Sun, 27 Feb 2011 05:10:07 +0000 http://www.fastonkeys.com/?p=663#comment-663 slipstack, sounds to me like your speaker/room acoustics might possibly be off, producing an uneven frequency response? Speakers or room accentuating too many mids? Just a thought... Michael slipstack,

sounds to me like your speaker/room acoustics might possibly be off, producing an uneven frequency response? Speakers or room accentuating too many mids? Just a thought…

Michael

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Comment on New Yamaha CP1 – Could this be the one? by Michael (Toronto) http://www.fastonkeys.com/studio/new-yamaha-cp1/comment-page-3/#comment-662 Michael (Toronto) Sun, 27 Feb 2011 05:06:44 +0000 http://www.fastonkeys.com/?p=663#comment-662 hello everyone, I'd love to answer in great detail, but I'm way too busy after moving residences... I miss my CP-1 so badly as I haven't been able to unbox it yet! It's been 3 weeks since the move and my studio is still in boxes everywhere! Can't wait to get set up again in a bigger and better location! hello everyone,

I’d love to answer in great detail, but I’m way too busy after moving residences… I miss my CP-1 so badly as I haven’t been able to unbox it yet! It’s been 3 weeks since the move and my studio is still in boxes everywhere! Can’t wait to get set up again in a bigger and better location!

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Comment on New Yamaha CP1 – Could this be the one? by Slipstack (in Norway) http://www.fastonkeys.com/studio/new-yamaha-cp1/comment-page-2/#comment-661 Slipstack (in Norway) Wed, 23 Feb 2011 23:48:43 +0000 http://www.fastonkeys.com/?p=663#comment-661 Hey fellow CP-1 owners. I bought a CP-1 a week ago, partly based upon the good reviews and rave found in this forum. I've played classical /contemporary music on lots of acoustic pianos/grand pianos & rhodes pianos over the last 30 years, although never professionally. Overall I'm greatly satisfied with the instrument. It has a fabulous dynamic, the keys suit my playing style perfectly, and the menus and controllers are - not easy or self-explaining, but - not too hard to understand and use either. The Electric piano sounds are fabulous, although not always quite "authentic", to the ones they are supposed to replicate. But still am getting this sneaky feeling that it isn't as great as I had expected it to be: 1: The keys B4-D5 (and a few others) does give a noticeably louder tone than the ones below and above on the scale, and in some music peaces they just "scream out" so off volume, that for me it just spoils the music. I can't for my bare life adjust only the affected keys (EQ or something), I have tried to look as deep as I get in the manual, but I can't find any lead to how this can be adjusted. So my question is: Is there any way to adjust the volume/sensitivity/output of the keys individually? 2: The key F4 is opposite: it is considerably weaker in sound than the adjacent keys, and has to be pressed harder to not disappear inbetween the rest. The question above also applies to this : Can the volume (gain) be adjusted individually? 3: The [CP80 Studio] tuning below C2 seems to go more and more off scale the lower it gets. If I press the Bb0 key on any acoustic piano, and then switches to [CP80] setting, it's very clear that the tone is nearly half a tone too low, and this makes it useless. Overall, the entire CP80 tuning below C2 seems to go more and more off scale the lower it gets. Can the piano presets be tuned individually, or parts of the keyboard be "stretched" :) ? (ok yes I know this is hard for me to explain, I want the A440 (or any given key) to be the anchor point, and the left side to be tuned lower, more and more towards the left, as it seems to get more and more out of scale.) 4: What's the trick to get the pitch wheel to work? The only sound is has any affect on is the preset wah-piano (on Bank C14), on all others it makes no difference at all. The Manual doesn't mention any preset it doesn't work on, so my question is: is this normal? 5: Is there any way a key can be pressed and produce NO sound at all? This has been possible on every other piano I have ever played. 6: And last: Seriously - when changing from one sound (program) to another, is it too much to ask for that it finishes the sound already played, and then switches setting? The half second full stop and silence between preset programs is such a party killer sometimes. I for one will tell Yamaha this loud and clear at any given chance - and anybody else who might consider buying the CP-1. This is not acceptable in 2011. OK, enough ranting from me, I really hope anyone can take the time to answer me, I seriously do want to love this piano, but I can't just yet. Maybe it just needs a tiny adjustment or two, and I hope any of you wizards can help me a bit on the way. Thanks in advance for any answers. Slipstack Hey fellow CP-1 owners.

I bought a CP-1 a week ago, partly based upon the good reviews and rave found in this forum. I’ve played classical /contemporary music on lots of acoustic pianos/grand pianos & rhodes pianos over the last 30 years, although never professionally.

Overall I’m greatly satisfied with the instrument. It has a fabulous dynamic, the keys suit my playing style perfectly, and the menus and controllers are – not easy or self-explaining, but – not too hard to understand and use either. The Electric piano sounds are fabulous, although not always quite “authentic”, to the ones they are supposed to replicate.

But still am getting this sneaky feeling that it isn’t as great as I had expected it to be:

1: The keys B4-D5 (and a few others) does give a noticeably louder tone than the ones below and above on the scale, and in some music peaces they just “scream out” so off volume, that for me it just spoils the music. I can’t for my bare life adjust only the affected keys (EQ or something), I have tried to look as deep as I get in the manual, but I can’t find any lead to how this can be adjusted.

So my question is: Is there any way to adjust the volume/sensitivity/output of the keys individually?

2: The key F4 is opposite: it is considerably weaker in sound than the adjacent keys, and has to be pressed harder to not disappear inbetween the rest.
The question above also applies to this : Can the volume (gain) be adjusted individually?

3: The [CP80 Studio] tuning below C2 seems to go more and more off scale the lower it gets. If I press the Bb0 key on any acoustic piano, and then switches to [CP80] setting, it’s very clear that the tone is nearly half a tone too low, and this makes it useless. Overall, the entire CP80 tuning below C2 seems to go more and more off scale the lower it gets.

Can the piano presets be tuned individually, or parts of the keyboard be “stretched” :) ? (ok yes I know this is hard for me to explain, I want the A440 (or any given key) to be the anchor point, and the left side to be tuned lower, more and more towards the left, as it seems to get more and more out of scale.)

4: What’s the trick to get the pitch wheel to work? The only sound is has any affect on is the preset wah-piano (on Bank C14), on all others it makes no difference at all. The Manual doesn’t mention any preset it doesn’t work on, so my question is: is this normal?

5: Is there any way a key can be pressed and produce NO sound at all? This has been possible on every other piano I have ever played.

6: And last: Seriously – when changing from one sound (program) to another, is it too much to ask for that it finishes the sound already played, and then switches setting? The half second full stop and silence between preset programs is such a party killer sometimes. I for one will tell Yamaha this loud and clear at any given chance – and anybody else who might consider buying the CP-1. This is not acceptable in 2011.

OK, enough ranting from me, I really hope anyone can take the time to answer me, I seriously do want to love this piano, but I can’t just yet. Maybe it just needs a tiny adjustment or two, and I hope any of you wizards can help me a bit on the way.

Thanks in advance for any answers.

Slipstack

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Comment on New Yamaha CP1 – Could this be the one? by eric http://www.fastonkeys.com/studio/new-yamaha-cp1/comment-page-2/#comment-660 eric Thu, 17 Feb 2011 15:33:40 +0000 http://www.fastonkeys.com/?p=663#comment-660 can you assist? I have a yamaha 90ES which is crashing and may need to be replaced. i love the s700 sound and prefer it to the s6 offered in the 90sx replacement. would you recommend a C5 over a 90xs? I cant afford the C1. what piano is used for sampling? how much function is built in? thanks eric can you assist? I have a yamaha 90ES which is crashing and may need to be replaced. i love the s700 sound and prefer it to the s6 offered in the 90sx replacement. would you recommend a C5 over a 90xs? I cant afford the C1. what piano is used for sampling? how much function is built in? thanks eric

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Comment on New Yamaha CP1 – Could this be the one? by Richard (in Seattle) http://www.fastonkeys.com/studio/new-yamaha-cp1/comment-page-2/#comment-658 Richard (in Seattle) Sun, 06 Feb 2011 05:22:23 +0000 http://www.fastonkeys.com/?p=663#comment-658 Michael (in toronto) I'll be purchasing a CP-1 shortly and already own Pianoteq. Perhaps a little more information about Pianoteq? What piano were you using? (I have the PRo version.) Volume levels, etc. Thanks Michael (in toronto)
I’ll be purchasing a CP-1 shortly and already own Pianoteq.
Perhaps a little more information about Pianoteq?
What piano were you using? (I have the PRo version.)
Volume levels, etc.

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Comment on New Yamaha CP1 – Could this be the one? by Gareth E (UK) http://www.fastonkeys.com/studio/new-yamaha-cp1/comment-page-2/#comment-657 Gareth E (UK) Mon, 31 Jan 2011 20:38:55 +0000 http://www.fastonkeys.com/?p=663#comment-657 Hey Adrian n everyone I've got a real challenge for you. If I use Logic Pro version 9 (the latest) and also my Roland RD700NX. How do I get logic 9 to use the RD700NX as a sound generator for the outputted midi signal from Logic 9. I want to trigger the Brilliant grand or a tweaked Brilliant grand in my user area on the NX. Thus far I have managed to get Logic 9 to trigger the NX but it will only trigger 1 standard midi piano sound. However if i press midi on the NX and go to the label PC and change the value I can get some standard midi sounds(this is found by pressing midi and scrolling across, you can change the PC value from 0-127). I can not work out at all how to trigger the built in sounds. Surely this should be simple? Hey Adrian n everyone

I’ve got a real challenge for you.

If I use Logic Pro version 9 (the latest) and also my Roland RD700NX.

How do I get logic 9 to use the RD700NX as a sound generator for the outputted midi signal from Logic 9. I want to trigger the Brilliant grand or a tweaked Brilliant grand in my user area on the NX.

Thus far I have managed to get Logic 9 to trigger the NX but it will only trigger 1 standard midi piano sound. However if i press midi on the NX and go to the label PC and change the value I can get some standard midi sounds(this is found by pressing midi and scrolling across, you can change the PC value from 0-127).

I can not work out at all how to trigger the built in sounds. Surely this should be simple?

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Comment on New Yamaha CP1 – Could this be the one? by Elbert Altice http://www.fastonkeys.com/studio/new-yamaha-cp1/comment-page-2/#comment-655 Elbert Altice Sun, 30 Jan 2011 14:49:25 +0000 http://www.fastonkeys.com/?p=663#comment-655 Neat blog! Is your theme custom made or did you download it from somewhere? A theme like yours with a few simple tweeks would really make my blog jump out. Please let me know where you got your theme. Appreciate it Neat blog! Is your theme custom made or did you download it from somewhere? A theme like yours with a few simple tweeks would really make my blog jump out. Please let me know where you got your theme. Appreciate it

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Comment on New Toy – Roland RD700GX Stage Piano by victor yancovitch http://www.fastonkeys.com/studio/new-roland-rd700gx/comment-page-3/#comment-652 victor yancovitch Sun, 23 Jan 2011 21:35:20 +0000 http://www.fastonkeys.com/?p=39#comment-652 hi adrian.....you're still here i see :)....anyway i'm here in and out just to mention i purchased the new roland fp7f, and i am totally happy with it....the action's great, the price is great, and the sound is quite acceptable, although i use the sound on a pc board from an old techniques piano too......so my odyssey is over at 70.....whew!....cheers, vic hi adrian…..you’re still here i see :)….anyway i’m here in and out just to mention i purchased the new roland fp7f, and i am totally happy with it….the action’s great, the price is great, and the sound is quite acceptable, although i use the sound on a pc board from an old techniques piano too……so my odyssey is over at 70…..whew!….cheers, vic

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Comment on Studio Ergonomics by Adrian http://www.fastonkeys.com/studio/studio-ergonomics/comment-page-1/#comment-650 Adrian Fri, 21 Jan 2011 20:11:41 +0000 http://www.fastonkeys.com/?p=486#comment-650 Hello Fra, yes you're correct, it doesn't quite fit so I used placed so I placed two (2) side-by-side Auralex Gramma pads on the base - http://www.sweetwater.com/store/detail/GRAMMA - when the MPX shelf is placed on top of the Gramma pads, there is just enough clearance for the height of the MP8. I realize it's not visible in the picture but that's how it works. Also, I had the good folks at Argosy do a custom cutout for the Yamaha O2R96 mixer. Like I said in my post, if there's one thing that's stood the test of time, it's the Argosy products!! Hello Fra, yes you’re correct, it doesn’t quite fit so I used placed so I placed two (2) side-by-side Auralex Gramma pads on the base – http://www.sweetwater.com/store/detail/GRAMMA – when the MPX shelf is placed on top of the Gramma pads, there is just enough clearance for the height of the MP8. I realize it’s not visible in the picture but that’s how it works. Also, I had the good folks at Argosy do a custom cutout for the Yamaha O2R96 mixer. Like I said in my post, if there’s one thing that’s stood the test of time, it’s the Argosy products!!

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Comment on Studio Ergonomics by Fra http://www.fastonkeys.com/studio/studio-ergonomics/comment-page-1/#comment-649 Fra Thu, 20 Jan 2011 20:57:58 +0000 http://www.fastonkeys.com/?p=486#comment-649 ist that a Kawai MP8 on the upper Pic ? Didn't think it would fit under the MPX-shelf. ist that a Kawai MP8 on the upper Pic ?
Didn’t think it would fit under the MPX-shelf.

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Comment on New Yamaha CP1 – Could this be the one? by Michael (Toronto) http://www.fastonkeys.com/studio/new-yamaha-cp1/comment-page-2/#comment-647 Michael (Toronto) Sun, 09 Jan 2011 08:04:00 +0000 http://www.fastonkeys.com/?p=663#comment-647 Hi CP1 owners, Here's an interesting post I found about tweaking the CP1 acoustic piano to give it more "life". I haven't tried it yet but I intend to. It sounds very interesting. It's posted by 'kenchan' on Dec 20-2010 from the following website: http://forums.rolandclan.com/?action=show_thread&thread=30262&fid=2&page=last "over the weekend i programmed the CP1's 2nd tone generator to sound the 2nd and 3rd string resonance effect on my piano sounds. one main weakness of the CP1 is the sample loop you can hear after the tone decays a little bit on the piano's. (no issue on the EP's). it's an annoying lifeless loop. so wat i did was took the 2nd tone generator using the same piano as the 1st generator but ran a softer hammer setting at about 50% or less of the volume, made the keyoff and release so that it does not affect the 1st generator tone and finally, added chorus with slow speed. i detuned the 2nd generator a little bit and fine tuned the chorus and volume level until i was able to put some life in the loop without making it sound artificial or abrupt. it's a very subtle touch but makes all the difference.... if you're picky like me i suppose. took me like 2hrs to get it to where i was satisified but it sounds great now. :p im still working on the S6 sample as it has a more pronounced lifeless loop, but my main piano, the CF, sounds fantastic. :) i should've thought about this sooner. lol ofcourse i checked polyphony playing different passages repetitively hitting the same key, hitting one low note with damper pedal and playing a long arppegiation with pedal continuously down, etc. no issue. after playing with my VPiano (and the supernatural RD at the stores), that lifeless loop kept bugging me even more. roland did a great job on the decay on the RD's." PLEASE LET ME KNOW IF THIS HELPS! Michael Hi CP1 owners,

Here’s an interesting post I found about tweaking the CP1 acoustic piano to give it more “life”. I haven’t tried it yet but I intend to. It sounds very interesting. It’s posted by ‘kenchan’ on Dec 20-2010 from the following website:

http://forums.rolandclan.com/?action=show_thread&thread=30262&fid=2&page=last

“over the weekend i programmed the CP1’s 2nd tone generator to sound the 2nd and 3rd string resonance effect on my piano sounds.

one main weakness of the CP1 is the sample loop you can hear after the tone decays a little bit on the piano’s. (no issue on the EP’s). it’s an annoying lifeless loop. so wat i did was took the 2nd tone generator using the same piano as the 1st generator but ran a softer hammer setting at about 50% or less of the volume, made the keyoff and release so that it does not affect the 1st generator tone and finally, added chorus with slow speed. i detuned the 2nd generator a little bit and fine tuned the chorus and volume level until i was able to put some life in the loop without making it sound artificial or abrupt. it’s a very subtle touch but makes all the difference…. if you’re picky like me i suppose.

took me like 2hrs to get it to where i was satisified but it sounds great now. :p im still working on the S6 sample as it has a more pronounced lifeless loop, but my main piano, the CF, sounds fantastic. :) i should’ve thought about this sooner. lol

ofcourse i checked polyphony playing different passages repetitively hitting the same key, hitting one low note with damper pedal and playing a long arppegiation with pedal continuously down, etc. no issue.

after playing with my VPiano (and the supernatural RD at the stores), that lifeless loop kept bugging me even more. roland did a great job on the decay on the RD’s.”

PLEASE LET ME KNOW IF THIS HELPS!

Michael

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Comment on New Yamaha CP1 – Could this be the one? by Effenix (Holland) http://www.fastonkeys.com/studio/new-yamaha-cp1/comment-page-2/#comment-644 Effenix (Holland) Sat, 08 Jan 2011 01:30:27 +0000 http://www.fastonkeys.com/?p=663#comment-644 Hi Michael and happy new year to all. I am glad I don't hear the wrong things. As I told before I own a CP1 and Motif XF7 and I love to play both of them. I did not read your piece the correct way so we both agree that the CP1 is amazing and the Motif, in a different way, is also (for me) 1 of the best synths today. You wrote "To my understanding, the CP1 and CP5 acoustic pianos are supposed to be identical (are they not?) as well as the keyboard action." and a lot of people on other forums agree to this statement. Personally I agree about the action but I just be amateur player so I let the profs just the action but as the sounds are concerned I don't think they are identical. I think I can hear much more dynamic in the sounds of the CP1 compared to the CP5. So I find this strange that on many forums people don't hear the difference. Cheers Effie Hi Michael and happy new year to all. I am glad I don’t hear the wrong things. As I told before I own a CP1 and Motif XF7 and I love to play both of them.

I did not read your piece the correct way so we both agree that the CP1 is amazing and the Motif, in a different way, is also (for me) 1 of the best synths today.

You wrote “To my understanding, the CP1 and CP5 acoustic pianos are supposed to be identical (are they not?) as well as the keyboard action.” and a lot of people on other forums agree to this statement. Personally I agree about the action but I just be amateur player so I let the profs just the action but as the sounds are concerned I don’t think they are identical. I think I can hear much more dynamic in the sounds of the CP1 compared to the CP5.

So I find this strange that on many forums people don’t hear the difference.

Cheers Effie

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Comment on New Yamaha CP1 – Could this be the one? by Michael (Toronto) http://www.fastonkeys.com/studio/new-yamaha-cp1/comment-page-2/#comment-643 Michael (Toronto) Wed, 05 Jan 2011 04:22:52 +0000 http://www.fastonkeys.com/?p=663#comment-643 Hi Patrick, Congratulations on your CP1 purchase! I wish you many years of inspired playing and I can tell you firsthand that the CP1 has inspired me greatly! My first suggestion right off is that you use the absolute best speaker system you can afford to monitor with. I mean studio quality speakers. They should also put out a fair amount of power which keeps peak transients clean. I find that when you approach the decibels of a real grand piano, the speakers can be tested to their max, piano sound being rich in sharp attack and harmonically complex. Careful reading of the manual should give you a basic guideline of what the buttons and knobs do individually, but it lacks in suggestions as to how to be creative with all the subtle interactions of the various preamp, modulation, reverb, and eq parameters. Not to mention tweaks you can do to the velocity which shifts how you perceive the key/sound experience. Of course a major adjustment is hammer hardness. For example, you could just press the first concert CFIII preset and then experiment with the hammer hardness. Sounds simple enough… but when you add to the tweaking, adjustment of velocity (found by hitting ‘Utility’ then adjusting the 4th knob ‘VelCurve’) through normal, soft, hard, wide, you add another dimension to the control you have over the exact feel/hammer hardness/sound possibilities. And that’s just a SIMPLE adjustment! Toss in a bit of EQ tweaking (press and hold down the Pre-Amp button for 2 seconds until you see the EQ adjustments for Bass, Mid, Treble) and you can even fine tune it still. Don’t forget to lock these changes into the User Bank for future and quick recall! For what seems like a ‘basic’ piano instrument on the outside, the CP1 is loaded with adjustability at the quick touch of a button or knob. Something as simple as comparing the two grand pianos (CFIII and S6) becomes an afternoons journey into the subtleties available in sound character, hammer hardness, velocity feel, ambience colouration, EQ etc…. and that’s just ACOUSTIC pianos! Check out the amazing subtleties of Rhodes instruments (sampled with various types of hammers, preamps, and amps) to be amazed at the super fine tolerances and hard work that Yamaha has put into this keyboard. Check out the CP-80 (I used to own one…) I haven’t found a better rendition anywhere else! Once again, make sure you invest in as excellent quality studio speakers as possible (see my setup above for example in a previous post) to hear the fine nuances of sound from this most amazing digital piano that doesn’t sound digital! A lot of discovering the CP1 comes from experimentation, but yes you need to know the principals at work in the sound ‘chain’ and how they interact. Thankfully Yamaha has made this chain easily accessible and visually user friendly. The CP1 is an excellent combination of simple, intuitive interface with powerful tweakable parameters below. Hope that helps! All the best discovering this amazing CP1 digital piano! Michael Hi Patrick,

Congratulations on your CP1 purchase! I wish you many years of inspired playing and I can tell you firsthand that the CP1 has inspired me greatly!

My first suggestion right off is that you use the absolute best speaker system you can afford to monitor with. I mean studio quality speakers. They should also put out a fair amount of power which keeps peak transients clean. I find that when you approach the decibels of a real grand piano, the speakers can be tested to their max, piano sound being rich in sharp attack and harmonically complex.

Careful reading of the manual should give you a basic guideline of what the buttons and knobs do individually, but it lacks in suggestions as to how to be creative with all the subtle interactions of the various preamp, modulation, reverb, and eq parameters. Not to mention tweaks you can do to the velocity which shifts how you perceive the key/sound experience. Of course a major adjustment is hammer hardness.

For example, you could just press the first concert CFIII preset and then experiment with the hammer hardness. Sounds simple enough… but when you add to the tweaking, adjustment of velocity (found by hitting ‘Utility’ then adjusting the 4th knob ‘VelCurve’) through normal, soft, hard, wide, you add another dimension to the control you have over the exact feel/hammer hardness/sound possibilities. And that’s just a SIMPLE adjustment! Toss in a bit of EQ tweaking (press and hold down the Pre-Amp button for 2 seconds until you see the EQ adjustments for Bass, Mid, Treble) and you can even fine tune it still. Don’t forget to lock these changes into the User Bank for future and quick recall!

For what seems like a ‘basic’ piano instrument on the outside, the CP1 is loaded with adjustability at the quick touch of a button or knob. Something as simple as comparing the two grand pianos (CFIII and S6) becomes an afternoons journey into the subtleties available in sound character, hammer hardness, velocity feel, ambience colouration, EQ etc…. and that’s just ACOUSTIC pianos! Check out the amazing subtleties of Rhodes instruments (sampled with various types of hammers, preamps, and amps) to be amazed at the super fine tolerances and hard work that Yamaha has put into this keyboard. Check out the CP-80 (I used to own one…) I haven’t found a better rendition anywhere else!

Once again, make sure you invest in as excellent quality studio speakers as possible (see my setup above for example in a previous post) to hear the fine nuances of sound from this most amazing digital piano that doesn’t sound digital! A lot of discovering the CP1 comes from experimentation, but yes you need to know the principals at work in the sound ‘chain’ and how they interact. Thankfully Yamaha has made this chain easily accessible and visually user friendly. The CP1 is an excellent combination of simple, intuitive interface with powerful tweakable parameters below.

Hope that helps! All the best discovering this amazing CP1 digital piano!

Michael

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Comment on New Toy – Roland RD700GX Stage Piano by Mathias http://www.fastonkeys.com/studio/new-roland-rd700gx/comment-page-3/#comment-642 Mathias Mon, 03 Jan 2011 23:25:15 +0000 http://www.fastonkeys.com/?p=39#comment-642 Hello there Adrian. My situation is that I think I may find an electric stagepiano very useful. I have been playing piano for around 9 years now, and I have always been practicing on an acoustic piano, and I always thought that nothing could replace an acoustic piano. But the thing is, that I might move into an apartment some time within the next year, so a piano with the opportunity to plug in earphones would be great. I also considered for a while to start recording some music on my computer for fun, so the ability to plug it into my computer would be great aswell. I also wondered if it is possible to get some pre-recorded tracks for the stage piano that I can practice with? And if there is, how is it to play along with? Now the reason I am in doubt what piano to pick, is that it matters alot to me, that the piano feels good when I'm playing it and that the sound is decent. The keyboards and stagepianos I've tried didn't really convince me. They felt wierd and too much like plastic in the keys and the sound was nowhere close to the sound of an acoustic piano. So, what do you think? Is the RD700GX a good solution for practicing or would you recommend something else? Hello there Adrian.

My situation is that I think I may find an electric stagepiano very useful. I have been playing piano for around 9 years now, and I have always been practicing on an acoustic piano, and I always thought that nothing could replace an acoustic piano. But the thing is, that I might move into an apartment some time within the next year, so a piano with the opportunity to plug in earphones would be great. I also considered for a while to start recording some music on my computer for fun, so the ability to plug it into my computer would be great aswell.

I also wondered if it is possible to get some pre-recorded tracks for the stage piano that I can practice with? And if there is, how is it to play along with?

Now the reason I am in doubt what piano to pick, is that it matters alot to me, that the piano feels good when I’m playing it and that the sound is decent. The keyboards and stagepianos I’ve tried didn’t really convince me. They felt wierd and too much like plastic in the keys and the sound was nowhere close to the sound of an acoustic piano.

So, what do you think? Is the RD700GX a good solution for practicing or would you recommend something else?

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Comment on New Yamaha CP1 – Could this be the one? by Patrick McNamara http://www.fastonkeys.com/studio/new-yamaha-cp1/comment-page-2/#comment-641 Patrick McNamara Mon, 03 Jan 2011 22:40:06 +0000 http://www.fastonkeys.com/?p=663#comment-641 Michael - I just bought a CP1, and it is great. But the manual assumes more experience with this kind of instrument than I have. Do you have a suggestion as how to find someone who I might hire to teach me how to get the most of modifying it to sound how I want it to. I'm just going to use it for practice, so most of the bells and whistles are not why I bought it. I just needed the best acoustic feel I could find in a DP. The guys at the store were pretty clueless. I live in NYC, and there must be people who'd be interested. Now how to find them... Thanks. Michael -

I just bought a CP1, and it is great. But the manual assumes more experience with this kind of instrument than I have. Do you have a suggestion as how to find someone who I might hire to teach me how to get the most of modifying it to sound how I want it to. I’m just going to use it for practice, so most of the bells and whistles are not why I bought it. I just needed the best acoustic feel I could find in a DP. The guys at the store were pretty clueless.

I live in NYC, and there must be people who’d be interested. Now how to find them…

Thanks.

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Comment on New Yamaha CP1 – Could this be the one? by Michael (Toronto) http://www.fastonkeys.com/studio/new-yamaha-cp1/comment-page-2/#comment-640 Michael (Toronto) Sat, 01 Jan 2011 23:05:01 +0000 http://www.fastonkeys.com/?p=663#comment-640 HAPPY NEW YEAR! Hi Effenix. Your comment above seems to have two different questions... First you're comparing CP1 with CP5. Then you're comparing Motif XF7 with CP1. Not sure what your impression of my previous post was... The post above (December 22nd, 2010 at 10:32 pm) was actually not my words, but taken from a 'pianoworld' post. The pianoworld writer actually quoted what a Yamaha rep had told him regarding the differences between Motif XF and CP1 technologies. To my understanding, the CP1 and CP5 acoustic pianos are supposed to be identical (are they not?) as well as the keyboard action. I own the CP1 but haven't spent much time on the CP5 in the store beyond 15 minutes (with bad amplification system). I also own the MOTIF xS7. I certainly see a world of difference between CP1 piano and Motif piano (CFIII). The CP1 has a rich full-bodied piano sound which is very 'organic' feeling, truly sometimes fools me into thinking I'm at a real grand! The XS has a great piano 'sound' that has a different character and somewhat synthesized timbre (slightly). Actually I rather like the XS piano character for its cutting 'edge' attack and sparkly upper notes, but I find the low mid to mid area 'clouded' sounding. This is like comparing apples to oranges! In this day and age of amazing piano samples (we're getting so close!) who's complaining??? The other day I hauled out one of my vintage synths to assess whether or not to sell it. It's the Roland G-1000 arranger/synth/rompler/MIDI file player. It has 76 'semi' weighted keys (same size key-width as grand piano... Motif keys are slightly less wide). G-1000 is vintage from the 1990's, but when you hear the piano sample buried within a mix, it's quite remarkable! I plugged the CP1 into the G1000 via MIDI and actually re-discovered that piano all over again! I played it for quite a while. I had never actually played that vintage piano through excellent studio monitors and only now could really hear how excellent it really was for it's time. Yet it has a rough character and a 'raw' sampled response. Then when I went back to playing the CP1 sounds, that only made the CP1 shine even more! You can really appreciate development in technology. I really recommend this exercise to anyone who has any negative things to say about todays piano sounds! Just roll out your old keyboard pianos and play for about an hour or so... then jump back onto your CP1, Nord, Roland, Kawaii etc.... mind-boggling! BTW, the G1000 has a particular Italian accordion sound that I simply cannot part with! I haven't heard it anywhere else! It's a very brittle, nostalgiac, piercing tone like nothing else. I don't want to sample it, so I'll keep the keyboard. Also the keybed feels great, the hundreds of MIDI files that came in the ZIP drive are priceless as well as the 'human feel' grooves... It was also very cool to play the CP1 via the G1000 keybed! It's VERY responsive and superfast for repetitions! Back to the CP1... anyone who has spent a moderate amount of time playing the CP1 will know the 'organicness' of this keyboard, particularly the excellent connection between the action and sound, that is simply ADDICTIVE to play. The Rhodes, DX7, Wurly, and CP-80 sounds are simply and incredibly as real it can possibly get as well. The CP1 is WORTH IT'S WEIGHT IN GOLD! Looking forward to this fantastic new year! Michael HAPPY NEW YEAR!

Hi Effenix. Your comment above seems to have two different questions… First you’re comparing CP1 with CP5. Then you’re comparing Motif XF7 with CP1. Not sure what your impression of my previous post was…

The post above (December 22nd, 2010 at 10:32 pm) was actually not my words, but taken from a ‘pianoworld’ post. The pianoworld writer actually quoted what a Yamaha rep had told him regarding the differences between Motif XF and CP1 technologies.

To my understanding, the CP1 and CP5 acoustic pianos are supposed to be identical (are they not?) as well as the keyboard action. I own the CP1 but haven’t spent much time on the CP5 in the store beyond 15 minutes (with bad amplification system). I also own the MOTIF xS7. I certainly see a world of difference between CP1 piano and Motif piano (CFIII). The CP1 has a rich full-bodied piano sound which is very ‘organic’ feeling, truly sometimes fools me into thinking I’m at a real grand! The XS has a great piano ’sound’ that has a different character and somewhat synthesized timbre (slightly). Actually I rather like the XS piano character for its cutting ‘edge’ attack and sparkly upper notes, but I find the low mid to mid area ‘clouded’ sounding. This is like comparing apples to oranges! In this day and age of amazing piano samples (we’re getting so close!) who’s complaining???

The other day I hauled out one of my vintage synths to assess whether or not to sell it. It’s the Roland G-1000 arranger/synth/rompler/MIDI file player. It has 76 ’semi’ weighted keys (same size key-width as grand piano… Motif keys are slightly less wide). G-1000 is vintage from the 1990’s, but when you hear the piano sample buried within a mix, it’s quite remarkable! I plugged the CP1 into the G1000 via MIDI and actually re-discovered that piano all over again! I played it for quite a while. I had never actually played that vintage piano through excellent studio monitors and only now could really hear how excellent it really was for it’s time. Yet it has a rough character and a ‘raw’ sampled response. Then when I went back to playing the CP1 sounds, that only made the CP1 shine even more! You can really appreciate development in technology. I really recommend this exercise to anyone who has any negative things to say about todays piano sounds! Just roll out your old keyboard pianos and play for about an hour or so… then jump back onto your CP1, Nord, Roland, Kawaii etc…. mind-boggling!

BTW, the G1000 has a particular Italian accordion sound that I simply cannot part with! I haven’t heard it anywhere else! It’s a very brittle, nostalgiac, piercing tone like nothing else. I don’t want to sample it, so I’ll keep the keyboard. Also the keybed feels great, the hundreds of MIDI files that came in the ZIP drive are priceless as well as the ‘human feel’ grooves… It was also very cool to play the CP1 via the G1000 keybed! It’s VERY responsive and superfast for repetitions!

Back to the CP1… anyone who has spent a moderate amount of time playing the CP1 will know the ‘organicness’ of this keyboard, particularly the excellent connection between the action and sound, that is simply ADDICTIVE to play. The Rhodes, DX7, Wurly, and CP-80 sounds are simply and incredibly as real it can possibly get as well.

The CP1 is WORTH IT’S WEIGHT IN GOLD!

Looking forward to this fantastic new year!

Michael

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Comment on New Yamaha CP1 – Could this be the one? by Effenix (Holland) http://www.fastonkeys.com/studio/new-yamaha-cp1/comment-page-2/#comment-639 Effenix (Holland) Thu, 30 Dec 2010 02:47:23 +0000 http://www.fastonkeys.com/?p=663#comment-639 Sorry Michael but if i read your piece about the XF and the CP1/CP5 I get the feeling that you find the CP1 and CP5 equal in piano sound. Maybe I am hearing different things but I think there is a world of difference between the two. Especially in dynamics. I own both a CP1 and a Motif XF7 and I personally think the XF is one of the best synths ever but I still hear a differences between the CP1 and the XF in piano sounds. Maybe I am to old to hear it :) Sorry Michael but if i read your piece about the XF and the CP1/CP5 I get the feeling that you find the CP1 and CP5 equal in piano sound. Maybe I am hearing different things but I think there is a world of difference between the two. Especially in dynamics.

I own both a CP1 and a Motif XF7 and I personally think the XF is one of the best synths ever but I still hear a differences between the CP1 and the XF in piano sounds.

Maybe I am to old to hear it :)

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Comment on New Yamaha CP1 – Could this be the one? by Michael (Toronto) http://www.fastonkeys.com/studio/new-yamaha-cp1/comment-page-2/#comment-638 Michael (Toronto) Sat, 25 Dec 2010 08:19:21 +0000 http://www.fastonkeys.com/?p=663#comment-638 Must say... this Kawai piano looks interesting.... WOODEN sound board in a digital piano??? http://www.kawai.de/ca93_en.htm Must say… this Kawai piano looks interesting…. WOODEN sound board in a digital piano???

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Comment on New Yamaha CP1 – Could this be the one? by Michael (Toronto) http://www.fastonkeys.com/studio/new-yamaha-cp1/comment-page-2/#comment-637 Michael (Toronto) Thu, 23 Dec 2010 06:32:19 +0000 http://www.fastonkeys.com/?p=663#comment-637 Couldn't resist adding the following post to this extensive CP1 discussion! from: http://www.pianoworld.com/forum/ubbthreads.php/topics/1575130/Yamaha_Motif_XS8_vs_Roland_Fan.html "In my view there is no better option today for a keyboard than the Yamaha XF8. I found the piano sounds to be equal to the CP5 or the Roland RD700 with the supernatural piano. I owned both and currently have the XF and the 90XS. The XF has a number of major advantages over the XS and that is the flash memory. There are many sound libraries available. For those of you that doubt the XF can produce the same piano sound as the CP1/CP5. Go to GC and play the S6 piano on both. I simply could not tell the difference. In fact, a Yamaha representative replied to my question, "Is the S6 Piano the same in XF and CP1/CP5?" by stating: Excellent question. The answer is no. While the S6 is one of (many) Yamaha acoustic grand pianos, much like the CFIIIS is another model of acoustic grand piano, the CFIII and the S6 pianos found in the CP1 and CP5 are not based on AWM2 sampled data. The CFIII and S6 that appear in the Motif XF are AWM2 sampled data. So there are two entirely different technologies involved. The Motif XF (AMW2) utilizes a familiar velocity and key mapping system where digital recording of piano strikes are stored digitally and reproduced when a key-on event requests data from a given Keybank. A KEYBANK is defined as a Note Range (that a sample is asked to cover) and a Velocity Range (that the sample is asked to cover). If you strike middle “C” at a velocity of 63 the sample-playback based Motif XF will return a specific recorded note. If you increase your velocity on the same middle “C” and strike the key at a velocity of 113, that velocity will cause a different recorded sample to play. The XF versions of the CFIII (9 ft Yamaha acoustic) and the S6 (6’11” Yamaha acoustic) are based on very familiar sample-playback technology. The CP1 and CP5’s CFIII and S6 piano recreations are based on Spectral Component Modeling. The velocity swapping and key note mapping paradigm of traditional sample playback technology is not used in the recreations of these acoustic instruments, at all. Playing them for a time should answer this for you. While, of course, playing a piano is very personal thing, I can only tell you of my experience playing velocity based samples (like AWM2) and playing the modeled (SCM) acoustic recreations. The (SCM) models ‘speak’ differently - the experience is more holistic in terms of sounding like an ‘individual’ playing a piano. You don’t feel like there is the same maximum and minimum as you do with velocity based samples - although I’m sure there is some theoretical max/min response happening - it does not ‘feel’ the same when playing the modeled pianos. In the right speaker cabinets (I have MSP7 Studios) at the right volume and position - there are times the experience is as close as you can get to feeling like you are playing a piano. I’ve mentioned previously here, I played the CP1 through some monitors that were $4500 (each)… That literally had me drooling, although I cannot work it out to make that a permanent situation… I’m extremely happy with the MSP7 Studios) Buried in a mix with a ton of other instruments it might be difficult to tell (as it is with any piano in a mix with tons of other instruments). But when performing a solo piano piece, or in a more piano appropriate music (acoustic) setting, is where you really experience the difference between sample-playback and the modeling technologies. Some will hear the difference immediately, and be captivated, others will not… this is the nature of music (and technologies). But trust me, the technologies used to recreate the pianos is entirely different - two entirely different approaches to reproducing the acoustic pianoforte. One is state-of-the-art, the other is cutting-edge. Hope that helps." Couldn’t resist adding the following post to this extensive CP1 discussion!

from:

http://www.pianoworld.com/forum/ubbthreads.php/topics/1575130/Yamaha_Motif_XS8_vs_Roland_Fan.html

“In my view there is no better option today for a keyboard than the Yamaha XF8. I found the piano sounds to be equal to the CP5 or the Roland RD700 with the supernatural piano. I owned both and currently have the XF and the 90XS.

The XF has a number of major advantages over the XS and that is the flash memory. There are many sound libraries available.

For those of you that doubt the XF can produce the same piano sound as the CP1/CP5. Go to GC and play the S6 piano on both. I simply could not tell the difference. In fact, a Yamaha representative replied to my question, “Is the S6 Piano the same in XF and CP1/CP5?” by stating:

Excellent question. The answer is no. While the S6 is one of (many) Yamaha acoustic grand pianos, much like the CFIIIS is another model of acoustic grand piano, the CFIII and the S6 pianos found in the CP1 and CP5 are not based on AWM2 sampled data. The CFIII and S6 that appear in the Motif XF are AWM2 sampled data.

So there are two entirely different technologies involved. The Motif XF (AMW2) utilizes a familiar velocity and key mapping system where digital recording of piano strikes are stored digitally and reproduced when a key-on event requests data from a given Keybank. A KEYBANK is defined as a Note Range (that a sample is asked to cover) and a Velocity Range (that the sample is asked to cover). If you strike middle “C” at a velocity of 63 the sample-playback based Motif XF will return a specific recorded note. If you increase your velocity on the same middle “C” and strike the key at a velocity of 113, that velocity will cause a different recorded sample to play. The XF versions of the CFIII (9 ft Yamaha acoustic) and the S6 (6’11” Yamaha acoustic) are based on very familiar sample-playback technology.

The CP1 and CP5’s CFIII and S6 piano recreations are based on Spectral Component Modeling. The velocity swapping and key note mapping paradigm of traditional sample playback technology is not used in the recreations of these acoustic instruments, at all.

Playing them for a time should answer this for you. While, of course, playing a piano is very personal thing, I can only tell you of my experience playing velocity based samples (like AWM2) and playing the modeled (SCM) acoustic recreations. The (SCM) models ‘speak’ differently – the experience is more holistic in terms of sounding like an ‘individual’ playing a piano. You don’t feel like there is the same maximum and minimum as you do with velocity based samples – although I’m sure there is some theoretical max/min response happening – it does not ‘feel’ the same when playing the modeled pianos. In the right speaker cabinets (I have MSP7 Studios) at the right volume and position – there are times the experience is as close as you can get to feeling like you are playing a piano. I’ve mentioned previously here, I played the CP1 through some monitors that were $4500 (each)… That literally had me drooling, although I cannot work it out to make that a permanent situation… I’m extremely happy with the MSP7 Studios)

Buried in a mix with a ton of other instruments it might be difficult to tell (as it is with any piano in a mix with tons of other instruments). But when performing a solo piano piece, or in a more piano appropriate music (acoustic) setting, is where you really experience the difference between sample-playback and the modeling technologies.

Some will hear the difference immediately, and be captivated, others will not… this is the nature of music (and technologies). But trust me, the technologies used to recreate the pianos is entirely different – two entirely different approaches to reproducing the acoustic pianoforte. One is state-of-the-art, the other is cutting-edge.

Hope that helps.”

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Comment on New Yamaha CP1 – Could this be the one? by Michael (Toronto) http://www.fastonkeys.com/studio/new-yamaha-cp1/comment-page-2/#comment-636 Michael (Toronto) Thu, 23 Dec 2010 05:50:32 +0000 http://www.fastonkeys.com/?p=663#comment-636 Hello everyone, and happy holidays! TESTING OUT THE ROLAND RD700NX Today, my music dealer informed me that the Roland RD700NX had arrived and was on the showroom floor awaiting my scrutiny! Well, I have been greatly anticipating this experience after hearing so much about it, and wondering how it compares to my Yamaha CP1. So I grabbed my studio headphones (AKG K240DF) and headed to the store… but just before I left I made sure to play my CP1 in order to inform my fingers for comparison… When I arrived the Roland piano was on a solid stand and had a Roland sustain pedal (continuous, not just a switch) under it. I plugged in my headphones (since they usually just plug keyboards into stage amps in mono!) and dialed up the 1st preset: “Concert Grand”. I sunk my fingers into what seemed like as real a grand piano keyboard as I’ve ever played then…. Yes!!! Very impressive touch and sound… a Winner right away! I then proceeded to play for about an hour and a half, mostly the 2 grand pianos (large and small). I played through many genres of music (classical, jazz, pop,….) I must admit that the action is as true to a real piano as I’ve ever experienced on a digital piano. I looked for the slight ‘click’ feel emulating the escapement, and yes there it was in a subtle way. Still not sure why this is a desirable action attribute… maybe it helps ‘put the brakes on’ when playing soft? I’m really not sure I would miss this (it’s not found on the Yamaha CP-1). The keys don’t appear to have any real wood imbedded below… I looked for the ‘graded hammer’ action i.e. the keys feel heavier as you go up the keyboard, but didn’t feel this. For example, I played a rapid 5 finger scale up and down at each C position up the piano. I sat in each position about 10 little up/down scales. I even transposed the keyboard so that each C position sounded at middle C so as not to be distracted by the octave register. I even turned off the volume and just whacked the keys! Still I could not perceive ANY difference in weight from low keys to high keys. (I don’t see listed anywhere that this Roland keyboard has a graded hammer action). I was pleasantly surprised to hear “string resonance” effect while holding down a bass C quietly then slamming down a staccato C major triad at middle C. This is sadly missing on the CP1. I found the Roland action extremely responsive and a joy to play! I dare say it might be slightly more responsive than the Yamaha CP1, but the comparison is redundant since the CP1 action has it’s own strengths and unique excellent playability suited to both the acoustic and electric pianos within (I simply love the CP1 action). On the Roland, I was hoping to find the “holy grail of keyboard repetition” and alas it was pretty good but not much different than the CP1 (both keyboards allow you to restrike the key about an eighth of an inch below starting position). I found the rest of the tones included on the Roland (clav, strings, brass, etc..) not that spectacular. Many sounded too synthesized (I much prefer Motif sounds). Of course I realize that there is a sizeable cost difference in these instruments. Honestly, for my very first impression, the Roland RD700NX was extremely impressive mainly for the smooth pianistic action and the 2 main piano sounds. I was extremely tempted to take it home and place it next to the CP1 but that will have to wait until the new year! IF I ever do add the Roland to my setup, it will be solely and primarily for the piano action which I suspect at this very premature trial is much better suited to playing classical piano repertoire. That’s nearly $3000 Canadian to spend primarily on a piano action! This whole experiment needs further scrutiny in the new year. I would like to closely compare side by side the Roland and CP1 in my studio over my studio speakers. Both grand piano sounds are very rich and inspiring to play, although the CP1 Rhodes sounds are so much better IMHO. I am greatly concerned about the issue of key wear on the Roland… if anyone could elaborate more on this issue, it is a real possible dealbreaker for me. Collecting digital instruments and creating a digital musical environment is complex and sure has it’s challenges! But ohhhhhh so many pleasures and choices! Thank you Roland and Yamaha for such magnificent instruments (have you guys considered working TOGETHER?). Share a few of your secrets to each other and create the ultimate digital piano for us! With all due respect, I applaud your technical genius! Thank you Adrian for this excellent site which I regularly admire and learn from. Happy Holidays and a musical and Happy New Year to all! Michael (Toronto) Hello everyone, and happy holidays!

TESTING OUT THE ROLAND RD700NX

Today, my music dealer informed me that the Roland RD700NX had arrived and was on the showroom floor awaiting my scrutiny! Well, I have been greatly anticipating this experience after hearing so much about it, and wondering how it compares to my Yamaha CP1. So I grabbed my studio headphones (AKG K240DF) and headed to the store… but just before I left I made sure to play my CP1 in order to inform my fingers for comparison…

When I arrived the Roland piano was on a solid stand and had a Roland sustain pedal (continuous, not just a switch) under it. I plugged in my headphones (since they usually just plug keyboards into stage amps in mono!) and dialed up the 1st preset: “Concert Grand”. I sunk my fingers into what seemed like as real a grand piano keyboard as I’ve ever played then…. Yes!!! Very impressive touch and sound… a Winner right away!

I then proceeded to play for about an hour and a half, mostly the 2 grand pianos (large and small). I played through many genres of music (classical, jazz, pop,….) I must admit that the action is as true to a real piano as I’ve ever experienced on a digital piano. I looked for the slight ‘click’ feel emulating the escapement, and yes there it was in a subtle way. Still not sure why this is a desirable action attribute… maybe it helps ‘put the brakes on’ when playing soft? I’m really not sure I would miss this (it’s not found on the Yamaha CP-1). The keys don’t appear to have any real wood imbedded below…

I looked for the ‘graded hammer’ action i.e. the keys feel heavier as you go up the keyboard, but didn’t feel this. For example, I played a rapid 5 finger scale up and down at each C position up the piano. I sat in each position about 10 little up/down scales. I even transposed the keyboard so that each C position sounded at middle C so as not to be distracted by the octave register. I even turned off the volume and just whacked the keys! Still I could not perceive ANY difference in weight from low keys to high keys. (I don’t see listed anywhere that this Roland keyboard has a graded hammer action).

I was pleasantly surprised to hear “string resonance” effect while holding down a bass C quietly then slamming down a staccato C major triad at middle C. This is sadly missing on the CP1.

I found the Roland action extremely responsive and a joy to play! I dare say it might be slightly more responsive than the Yamaha CP1, but the comparison is redundant since the CP1 action has it’s own strengths and unique excellent playability suited to both the acoustic and electric pianos within (I simply love the CP1 action). On the Roland, I was hoping to find the “holy grail of keyboard repetition” and alas it was pretty good but not much different than the CP1 (both keyboards allow you to restrike the key about an eighth of an inch below starting position).

I found the rest of the tones included on the Roland (clav, strings, brass, etc..) not that spectacular. Many sounded too synthesized (I much prefer Motif sounds).

Of course I realize that there is a sizeable cost difference in these instruments. Honestly, for my very first impression, the Roland RD700NX was extremely impressive mainly for the smooth pianistic action and the 2 main piano sounds. I was extremely tempted to take it home and place it next to the CP1 but that will have to wait until the new year! IF I ever do add the Roland to my setup, it will be solely and primarily for the piano action which I suspect at this very premature trial is much better suited to playing classical piano repertoire. That’s nearly $3000 Canadian to spend primarily on a piano action! This whole experiment needs further scrutiny in the new year. I would like to closely compare side by side the Roland and CP1 in my studio over my studio speakers. Both grand piano sounds are very rich and inspiring to play, although the CP1 Rhodes sounds are so much better IMHO. I am greatly concerned about the issue of key wear on the Roland… if anyone could elaborate more on this issue, it is a real possible dealbreaker for me.

Collecting digital instruments and creating a digital musical environment is complex and sure has it’s challenges! But ohhhhhh so many pleasures and choices!

Thank you Roland and Yamaha for such magnificent instruments (have you guys considered working TOGETHER?). Share a few of your secrets to each other and create the ultimate digital piano for us! With all due respect, I applaud your technical genius!

Thank you Adrian for this excellent site which I regularly admire and learn from.

Happy Holidays and a musical and Happy New Year to all!

Michael (Toronto)

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Comment on New Yamaha CP1 – Could this be the one? by Michael (Toronto) http://www.fastonkeys.com/studio/new-yamaha-cp1/comment-page-2/#comment-635 Michael (Toronto) Sun, 19 Dec 2010 22:04:38 +0000 http://www.fastonkeys.com/?p=663#comment-635 Just a note about that Yamaha LG800 stand for the CP1.... (I wish I knew there was such a stand!) This page has the dimensions: http://www.bonnersmusic.co.uk/buy/Yamaha/LG800_Pro_Keyboard_Stand The height adjustment is from 625mm to 685mm. The setup I have with my QuikLock stand allows me to place the keyboard just a bit lower so the bottom of the keyboard is at 610mm which is where I prefer it. Ergonomically speaking, for me this seems to work best... depends on chair height, getting your legs under the keyboard to the pedals, the slant of your forearms and hand to the keys... all personal preferences. For me that extra centimetre and a half might be a deal breaker, but I just might check out this stand in the future! It looks really solid. The QuickLock stand is also extremely solid. On this site, notice which stand they bundle with the CP1 (even though the other is also available)! http://kraftmusic.com/catalog/digitalpianos/stagepianos/7628 Cheers, Michael Just a note about that Yamaha LG800 stand for the CP1…. (I wish I knew there was such a stand!)

This page has the dimensions:

http://www.bonnersmusic.co.uk/buy/Yamaha/LG800_Pro_Keyboard_Stand

The height adjustment is from 625mm to 685mm. The setup I have with my QuikLock stand allows me to place the keyboard just a bit lower so the bottom of the keyboard is at 610mm which is where I prefer it. Ergonomically speaking, for me this seems to work best… depends on chair height, getting your legs under the keyboard to the pedals, the slant of your forearms and hand to the keys… all personal preferences. For me that extra centimetre and a half might be a deal breaker, but I just might check out this stand in the future! It looks really solid. The QuickLock stand is also extremely solid.

On this site, notice which stand they bundle with the CP1 (even though the other is also available)!

http://kraftmusic.com/catalog/digitalpianos/stagepianos/7628

Cheers,
Michael

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